AED public access

AED public access

  • slavadu's picture
  • slavadu
  • 01/07/2016
  • Posts: 9

Hello,

I'd like to ask about AED public access. I know that there are laws in many states that require schools, gyms and other public places to have AED devices. Similar laws exist in New York. The question is why public transportation and taxis in big cities cannot be equipped with AED devices? The benefit is obvious, in big cities there are plenty of buses/cabs most of the time around and in case of the event there are bystanders who can quickly deliver AED to the victim and even deploy it given the simple device usability these days. This can be faster than average 8 min for EMS. What could be the downside of such initiative? Budget wise is not very expensive for a big city, e.g. about $7mm to install AED in all buses, $14mm in all cabs for New York city.

Please advise.

Thank you,
slavadu [at] yahoo [dot] com

AED's in Public transport

  • Bob Trenkamp's picture
  • Bob Trenkamp
  • 09/10/2010
  • Posts: 245

Brilliant.

Just Brilliant.

Bob

Thank you, Bob

  • slavadu's picture
  • slavadu
  • 01/07/2016
  • Posts: 9

Thank you, Bob

Seems like a fantastic idea

  • timbers1's picture
  • timbers1
  • 09/14/2016
  • Posts: 35

Seems like a fantastic idea to me. Especially with how some of the new AEDs have become to use (I'm a fan of the Zoll & Philips defibrillators for this reason) and the advancements in technology coming down the line. I thought this article from a few years ago was an interesting look at the topic as well if you're interested.

Again, great thought and I hope it happens!

AED

  • slavadu's picture
  • slavadu
  • 01/07/2016
  • Posts: 9

Thank you very much for the link!

AED deployment

  • Bob Trenkamp's picture
  • Bob Trenkamp
  • 09/10/2010
  • Posts: 245

A cardiologist recently published an article that quoted OSHA as reporting that, if an AED was used on an SCA victim within 3-5 minutes, the survival rate soared to 60%.

There are about one thousand Sudden Cardiac Arrests in the USA every day. Forty-four percent are witnessed. Increasing the survivors from roughly 100 to 600 per day is beyond awesome.

But the place to focus is not the business environment - it's the home where 70% of all SCAs occur.

There are two problems with SCAs in the home: #1 - We have yet to find a home where both parties in a couple can perform a single two-inch chest compression on the other. #2 - The ambulance crew cannot be "hands on" within 3-5 minutes of an arrest. The obvious answer is to have a personal AED at home, My wife and I do and we take it with us when we travel.

Our public charity - SLICC.org - is currently running a (hopefully) zero profit program in which individuals - not businesses - can purchase a HeartSine 350P for forty percent less than the best web price. It has the lowest ten-year total cost of ownership of the AEDs that haven't had an FDA recall. If you are interested, please visit www.slicc.org and click on the red AED deal link in the upper left. We don't make a profit on this - in fact we lost money on this when we did it with the 300P in 2012.

Best

Bob

That's great info thanks Bob.

  • timbers1's picture
  • timbers1
  • 09/14/2016
  • Posts: 35

That's great info thanks Bob. Have you found an AEd clumsy to travel with?

Clumsy to travel with?

  • Bob Trenkamp's picture
  • Bob Trenkamp
  • 09/10/2010
  • Posts: 245

Not at all.

No problem with airport security, either for carry-on or check through baggage.

Initially, we told the baggage folks that there was an AED in the luggage. Their reaction ranged from "Thank you" to "So?" or "OK"

The victim's survival probability varies dramatically with the time from the arrest to the first defibrillation. Overall, the survival rate is about 10%. If the victim is defibrillated within three minutes of the arrest, the survival rate jumps to 60%.

Regards,

Bob

That's good to know

  • timbers1's picture
  • timbers1
  • 09/14/2016
  • Posts: 35

That's good to know (re:travel) thanks Bob.

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